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Dreamsquadron in Battle garb by GeneralVyse Dreamsquadron in Battle garb by GeneralVyse
The Battle garb of the commanders of the dream squadron

1: Captain Jones
Wearing an elaborate custom uniform based on contemporary cavalry uniforms, Jones bears the 5-pointed American cross of Devia. He carries an ornate dress sword, two French pistols and a rather large French carbine.

2: Captain Randal-L
Like Jones, Randal wears a custom uniform; he too bears the cross of Devia. He sports a massive 1777 pattern French musket and dress sword.

3: Captain Steampunk-girl
Steampunk – girl wears an unusual costume. Believing that she could fool opponents into believing they were merely a heavily armed merchantman, Steampunk-girl wears casual attire, perhaps even to appear as the more formidable pirates. She carries two French pistols and a plain Spanish sabre

4: Post-Captain Ross
Aside from a hefty India pattern brown bess, an NCOs’ pike, axe and dress sword, ross also sports a swarthy Spanish appearance and impressive sideburns said to captivate opponents, and on occasion send them into a stupor of perplexion. He wears the uniform of a Spanish don, decorated with the European version of the cross of devia and an elaborate Spanish royal seal.

5: Captain Squaresailor
Unusually Squaresailor wears the uniform of a captain of the Spanish ‘princes’ cavalry regiment. This smart uniform also bears a Spanish royal seal obscured by his folded arms. He carries a hefty pistol and an ornate Mameluke sword which was a very efficient fighting weapon.

6: Commodore Vyse
Vyse wears the elaborate uniform of a commodore of the royal navy, though outdated in appearance to his contemporaries he wears it as a memento of happier times. Favouring close combat to ranged fire, he carries his now ubiquitous 1796 pattern cavalry sword and an ornate dress sword. He has the emblem of a knight of the order of the garter, a European cross of Devia and a small locket featuring a miniature of a young woman, the significance of which is, as yet, unknown.

7: Commander SketchySquirrel
Sketchy wears the uniform of captain, and bears a massive 8 barrel musket, favoured by NCOs’ of line infantry; Sketchy has proved its proficiency for ship to ship combat. She also carries an ornate dress sword and the European cross of Devia.

8: Captain LeoPreston
Preston wears the uniform of a post captain, a terrifying opponent, she carries two dress swords AND a Mameluke sword, on top of this she carries two flintlock pistols, more than a match for any, even the heaviest of pirates. She too wears the cross of Devia and a badge to the royal marines.

This picture shows all of the commanders stood on the bridge of the KMS Deviation formerly a man of war from the fleet of western Devia. In the far distance is seen the dream squadron itself moored in line after the battle of OstDevia.

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the original dream squadron can be found here: [link]
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:icontechture:
Techture Featured By Owner Jan 20, 2010   Digital Artist
I like it alot
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Eliza-Aacher Featured By Owner Apr 16, 2008
This is very cool and incredibly detailed in both the art and information! Nice. :)
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Steampunk-Girl Featured By Owner Apr 20, 2007
YAY! Now I'm a hot gurl! XD Love how you dispossed the pistols around the waist, and all the costumes look great, well done! ^^
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GeneralVyse Featured By Owner Apr 20, 2007
:D thanks!!!! i really liked your character in this one - shes probably the best dressed for battle! glad you like this one too :D
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Radavik Featured By Owner Apr 5, 2007
Nice work mate, I love the detail on the uniforms.
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GeneralVyse Featured By Owner Apr 5, 2007
hehe thanks! there will be more!
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Gekster Featured By Owner Apr 5, 2007
So these are the late, late 18th, to more 19th century garbs or are the..chuffs on the shoulders, something I have yet to remember how they are called, just an addition to the garb itself? Though considering some of the other pieces of cloth it could be leaning to the second mentioned.

Either way envious ^.^ there! And a lovely bunch of people, now they only need others who'll be doing what they tell them! And some ships to sail.
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GeneralVyse Featured By Owner Apr 5, 2007
well this is set in the height of the napoleonic period - about 1807, but some, like vyse - still have very old uniforms that they wear out of nostalgia, as with any war - or era - uniforms are seldom as standardised as people like to think - there's a hell of a lot of private pucrchase - and a lot of uniforms are designed by commanding officers, so they change depending on who is in charge of them...

if you're really keen on uniforms check out cmdrejohnpauljones - hes a real buff on them! [link]
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Gekster Featured By Owner Apr 5, 2007
Ah thought it was more 19th than 18th. Mostly as the details were somewhat more "modern" looking and because of the things on the shoulders, which were not yet used when the uniforms were first begining to be used, atleast not with the british naval uniforms.

Might you know when the french started using their first uniforms? Was it later than the british and if so, when about?

And aye I've read that the uniforms (especially when they were still in the first stages of starting to be used but also happened at a later time) were with some ships quite a different thing to behold. (could be same for the infantry and such :) ) Different aswell were the colors and materials used which were due either to being the sturdiest and the least fading (for colour) or cheaper :) or all of the above.

Thank you greatly for the link, I shall head to check it out.
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GeneralVyse Featured By Owner Apr 6, 2007
yeah well all the uniforms are true to the period, as are the weapons and insignia (than god for jones and text books)

as for the french - which uniforms? they were wearing standardised uniforms from about the time of louis the 14th (musketeer uniforms) similarly the first british uniforms came from cromwell's model army in the english civil war...

and yeah jonesy knows all!!!!!
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Gekster Featured By Owner Apr 6, 2007
I'm was not looking so much for the uniforms of the french, actually a friend of mine is looking for them!
But either way those that are searched for ^^; would be the late 18th century uniforms.Well mid to late 18th century in all!

And I do not doubt they are considering well you have done your homework on the uniforms and passed with flying colours I bet *chuckle* Well I shall be of now. Hn, do you know of any good books, texts whatnot that would have a greater deal written about the uniforms (naval or other)? Well now I shall be truly dashing onwards , thank you for the interesting stuff written! (P.s.: and obviously drawn too :D)
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GeneralVyse Featured By Owner Apr 6, 2007
i think i have got a picture in a book that would help (i'll scan it in next time!)! but for the time being the french uniforms of the period are identical to the american ones - look at jones pics therefore! (the french have a lot of military support to the americans, and by gratitude the americans honored the french in style! :D
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Gekster Featured By Owner Apr 8, 2007
Mhm, thank you ! I shall pass the information onwards. Now that little tid bit of information was also quite interesting!
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GeneralVyse Featured By Owner Apr 8, 2007
:D good luck to your friend!!! :D
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SeanDouglas Featured By Owner Apr 4, 2007
That's not very fair. I hardly ever look that surly. Perhaps it's because I got the second best hat.
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GeneralVyse Featured By Owner Apr 4, 2007
HAHAHAHAHAHA lol, i thought you got the best hat myself! yeah i dont know why but you do look pretty peeved here, in the draft you were way cooler - i might use that version instead!

you got a pretty amazing uniform though!
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Leopreston Featured By Owner Apr 4, 2007  Professional General Artist
Not to mention a cool m'tash! Lol! :laughing:
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GeneralVyse Featured By Owner Apr 4, 2007
his tash was more impressive in the other one as well... im defo using that one instead! (he looked happy too)
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UnicornPoki Featured By Owner Apr 4, 2007
hahaha! sweet!
:salute:
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GeneralVyse Featured By Owner Apr 4, 2007
:D
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Randal-L Featured By Owner Apr 4, 2007  Student Traditional Artist
It's an honer to be in there!:w00t!: I see how you put me next to Jones, funny, in real life, I'm his lil brother! :D
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GeneralVyse Featured By Owner Apr 4, 2007
REALLY!!!!!! well i never - he never told me that!!!! :S wow - thats pretty cool! frank and you do look like brothers in the pic - weird!!!!
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CdreJohnPaulJones Featured By Owner Apr 4, 2007  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Truly amazing, my good man! I cannot wait to see the final! :D
*Takes a pull on his pipe than tosses it aside as he slings the carbine on his shoulder.*
"Well, the squadron under Admiral $olly is closing, we'd best prepare for battle..."
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GeneralVyse Featured By Owner Apr 4, 2007
preston: "to arms!" *frantic scurrying as men return to their ships...*

jones: "vyse? why aren't you returning to you ship?"

*vyse closes the locket and reattaches it to his chest*

vyse: "it's ok jones, promus kaa has my helm, i'll stay here, i've some unfinished business..."

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american midshipman: "cap'n the Deviation's caught fire!"

*jones turns in his seat - indeed the Deviation is ablaze, sails rigged full, and the last of a skeleton crew clambering in to the one remaining launch*

jones: "vyse..." he says through gritted teeth...

only one figure remains on the Deviation, stood on the bridge, silhouetted against the flames, vyse steers the deviation toward the $olly fleet...
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Leopreston Featured By Owner Apr 4, 2007  Professional General Artist
It starts...

Preston (lol, I'm Preston now...:D): 'Vyse, stop moping about your sweetheart and get! ...There's funny lookin' people around who need to eat some more!' =p
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GeneralVyse Featured By Owner Apr 4, 2007
hahahahahaha indeed it does start! lol :D yeah leo/preston - i can't decide!
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Leopreston Featured By Owner Apr 16, 2007  Professional General Artist
Lol, well, I've changed my stuff to just 'Preston', seeing as you guys use last names too. :)
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GeneralVyse Featured By Owner Apr 17, 2007
hahaha fair enough! at least your character's got a first name though! lol, vyse is just plain vyse! ill have to come up with one for him...
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Leopreston Featured By Owner Apr 20, 2007  Professional General Artist
Ha ha, yes, you will... how about Vyimjiminy Vyse? Lol! Ok, so I'm only kidding. Vyse is good enough! Honest! :)
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GeneralVyse Featured By Owner Apr 17, 2007
hahaha ok - Arthur, Nicholas, Saxe-Coburg, Vyse :D pretty good :D ?
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CdreJohnPaulJones Featured By Owner Apr 4, 2007  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
>:) I can picture this scene, very much like the shot of the Black Pearl sailing towards the EIC fleet with the whirlpool forming in the Pirates 3 trailer...
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GeneralVyse Featured By Owner Apr 4, 2007
oh no! i havent seen that (dinnae worry y'sen spoilers dont bother me) i guess that means norrie is a dead man then.... :(
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CdreJohnPaulJones Featured By Owner Apr 4, 2007  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
:| I hope not! If he does die, may it be an honorable death for a good cause. :salute:
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GeneralVyse Featured By Owner Apr 4, 2007
yeah but.... he sold them out to that cutler guy, so hes gone all baddie, and surely the eic fleet gets battered so that the black pearl survives... he's my favourite character (naturally) but i really do think he will be killed - unless he realises his error and turns against cutler... who is surely corrupt and evil enough that even british military justice would want to hang him!

still confused though - the carribean is the west indies.... why the EIC ??? :S there's a different name for the western fleets....

what do you know about the real port royal? and tortuga? it wouldnt surprise me if port royal itself sinks beneath the waves in the next film - it would coincide with the real history!
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CdreJohnPaulJones Featured By Owner Apr 4, 2007  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
I'm hoping that he sees an opportunity to do something good and use his new power and authority to do so. But he isn't in the Royal navy anymore. His uniform is blue and tan with epaulets, meaning that he's with the EIC as head of their "navy". The RN's uniforms are blue with white and didn't adopt the epaulet as a denotation of rank until 1795.

The EIC is another term for the HEITC (Honorable East India Trading Company) sometimes referred to as the "John Company", and was the first joint-stock company. It was granted an English Royal Charter by Elizabeth I on December 31, 1600, with the intention of favouring trade privileges in India. The Royal Charter effectively gave the newly created HEITC a 21 year monopoly on all trade in the East Indies. The Company transformed from a commercial trading venture to one that virtually ruled India as it acquired auxiliary governmental and military functions, until its dissolution in 1858.

It would be cool if the whirlpool/hurricane destroyed Port Royale. But here's the history: On June 7, 1692, a devastating earthquake hit the city causing the sand spit on which it was built to liquefy and flow out into Kingston Harbour. The water table was generally only two feet down prior to the quake. The effects of three tidal waves caused by the earthquake further eroded the sand spit, and soon the main part of the city lay permanently underwater, though intact enough that archaeologists have managed to uncover some well-preserved sites. The earthquake and tsunami killed between 1,000 and 3,000 people combined, over half the city's population. Disease ran rampant in the next several months, claiming an estimated 2,000 additional lives. After the earthquake on June 7, 1692, many believed the destruction to be an "Act of God" because of the city's sinful reputation. Some attempts were made to rebuild the city, starting with the one third of the city that was not submerged, but these met with mixed success and numerous disasters. An initial attempt at rebuilding was again destroyed in 1703, this time by fire. Subsequent rebuilding was hampered by several hurricanes in the first half of the 18th century, and soon Kingston eclipsed Port Royal in importance. A new Town of Port Royal was constructed near Old Port Royal and it became the principal station of the British naval forces in the Caribbean.

The movie supposedly takes place after 1748, as that was when the RN adopted an official uniform system and the appearance of the ships are very latter 1700s. So I'm not sure history quite fits in.
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GeneralVyse Featured By Owner Apr 5, 2007
yeah thats what i meant about port royal - but maybe maybe - they relate it to the whirl pool thing... so yeah the EAST india company monopolised india... but what about jamaica - the carribean - the WEST ???
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Leopreston Featured By Owner Apr 4, 2007  Professional General Artist
WOW! :wow: That is awesome!

Firstly, I love the setting, the way you've made it look like we're all stood on deck, with all the ships of the Dream Squadron in the background. That is just amazing.
Secondly, the uniforms/characters all look amazing!

Hang on a sec... I just have to... to say... JONES PIPE! SIDEBURNS!!! AHA HA HA!!! :rofl:

I'm sorry, but regardless of the serious nature of this pic, I just can't help but be reminded of the humour of Pratts when I read: 'impressive sideburns said to captivate opponents'. Lol! Oh Vyse, you crack me up. :XD:

Btw, but really, this is most impressive and I love everything about it, including the medals/background story... and otherwise the whole 'Devia' idea. :) This is fast becoming something in a whole league of it's own.

...Aaww, Vyse has a sorry looking scar (nice touch considering how he got it in Pratts) and... I have a Mameluke sword! Woo! I'm sure the Duke of Wellington used to use one of those. Yeeeey!!! :XD:
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GeneralVyse Featured By Owner Apr 4, 2007
:D yes the luxury of a mameluke sword! they were so purdy i had to hand a few out - plus they're supposed to be pretty nifty weapons too!!!!

yeah vyse has his scar, and a locket of ophelia

yeah the bit about sideburns was way funnier the first time i wrote, but DA ballsed it up and i had to write the whole thing again!!!! it's meant to be a nod to the pratts :D 'impressive sideburns said to captivate opponents' - i giggled away for 5 minutes solid on that one...

yeah jonesy always has a pipe - it's the law!!!

the background is a basically one big old etching i played about with a lot.

glad the uniforms are ok as well - it took a couple of attempts to get right!

England expects; some more background stories to our characters! :D
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LordDebahno Featured By Owner Apr 3, 2007   Traditional Artist
Cool:D
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GeneralVyse Featured By Owner Apr 4, 2007
lol :D
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LordDebahno Featured By Owner Apr 4, 2007   Traditional Artist
:)
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Atolm Featured By Owner Apr 3, 2007
Oh man! You do uniforms really well! Wonderful!
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GeneralVyse Featured By Owner Apr 4, 2007
awww wow! :D thanks! it took three attempts at getting them right - the jackets are easy, its remembering all the medals and belts and stuff - otherwise i'd just get guys with no equipment! thanks everso though!
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Promus-Kaa Featured By Owner Apr 3, 2007  Hobbyist General Artist
Once again...why was I not added?? :( :confusion:
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GeneralVyse Featured By Owner Apr 4, 2007
[link] becasue you weren't in this - its directly related to it - jones did a project where we all sent specifications for our ships (or in my case drew it) and he made the dream squadron - i said it would also be great if we had all the captains of said ships in an image - and eventually i fulfilled my promise!

sorry you're not in it, but it just wouldn't make sense!
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CdreJohnPaulJones Featured By Owner Apr 4, 2007  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Well, he can always join us as a lieutenant on one of our ships, eh? We do need some officers to aid with running the ship. Or perhaps he's your Flag-Captain, eh Commodore? :)
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GeneralVyse Featured By Owner Apr 4, 2007
il est un american, m'sieur, il faut aller avec toi!

i can enlist subalterns of my own! what ho! :D

but yeah he ought to be conscripted - im working on the 'Pratts-O-Carribean' page at the moment so yeah another club it will be!
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Leopreston Featured By Owner Apr 5, 2007  Professional General Artist
French! Gwah! Urgh! *Urk*
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GeneralVyse Featured By Owner Apr 5, 2007
you don't speak french? tut tut!!! :D lol - i dont think jonesy does either... :D
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Leopreston Featured By Owner Apr 11, 2007  Professional General Artist
'Voulez vous manger une paire de cuisse de grenouilles en buvant du vin rouge?'

LOL! I know a little French, but not much... I hated it at school, and my trip to France just backed up my feelings. Bleh! =p
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